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5 Suggestions for the USGA on the Spin Issue

BOMB: Isn't it interesting that as we make our way around the country visiting manufacturers (or, in some instances, having them come visit us), that there's one topic virtually all of them want to talk about: what the USGA will do with grooves to combat spin. But perhaps while everyone focuses on wedges, they're missing the bigger point—that it's likely not to affect just wedges, but every iron in your bag. If that's the case, I'd like to think we can come up with five ways to combat the spin issue WITHOUT touching any of your clubs under 50 degrees. And since you're the Gouge part of this operation, I'm gonna need help on a couple. But here's a couple on my end:

1.) I know it sounds like a broken record, but just grow the darn rough. And I'm not talking about some wimpish 3- to 4-inch grass but some real salad of 6 to 8 inches. Get in that and you could have grooves sharp enough to saw through one of these and you still wouldn't get any spin.

2.) Sorry Philly Mick, but lofts on wedges have kinda gotten out of hand. And I don't just want to keep the 64-degree that Lefty had in his bag for a while out of play. I think there should be a rule limiting loft to 54 degrees. I mean, Ian Woosnam only needed a 53-degree wedge to win the Masters in 1991. That not only would reduce the amount of spin players could put on the ball, but also would truly separate the shotmakers from those who simply are using equipment as the great equalizer. And if you don't think it makes a difference, I wrote an article earlier this year with this gem from Charles Howell III who had a 64-degree wedge in the bag for a spell: "I only use it maybe two times a tournament. But it's perfect when I shortside a green ... then it's almost like cheating." And we certainly don't want anything in the game that resembles cheating, do we?

GOUGE: I'll give you two more and I'll bet we can combine on a third.

3) There is no doubt that grooves are better today at channeling out grass juice than they used to be. And dirt and grass make golf balls not work right. The volume on the new grooves has increased, bottom line. Second, grooves are better with modern balls in that the urethane covers are able to get gripped by the sharper groove edge radius. You could attack this issue around the greens by making all clubs with lofts higher than 50 degrees be furnished with v-shaped grooves only. And there cannot be any additional face roughness either. Certainly, smooth vs. rough will matter, as noted clubfitter Pat Ryan has discussed, referencing long-time Golf Digest Technical Advisory Panel member Art Chou. Again, it won't make a bit of difference to average golfers, and better players will just have to figure out a way to get the ball close. One obvious solution would be to hit more greens.

4) Shhhhh. But the real answer everyone is afraid of (unnecessarily so) is bifurcation. It's time for the ruling bodies to seriously consider backing off their stand against separate rules for elite competitions. The best golfers in the world are freaks that are even better in real-life than they are in their video games and letting them play with equipment designed to help average golfers isn't like cheating, it is cheating. The soap box derby gets pretty high tech, but none of those vehicles would make it much farther than down the driveway. Tour players should compete with the crudest tools possible, not the most advanced. With two different sets of rules (only in the area of equipment), you could make every club v-grooved. You could even reduce driver sizes to 260 cc if you wanted to. Hmmm. Might be what all that talk at Muirfield Village was all about earlier this year.

BOMB & GOUGE: And then there's this.
5) Do. Nothing.

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Add this to your "grow the rough" item:

Stop mowing fairways down to heights us average folks call "putting greens."

The typical tour fairway is hard fast - faster than some of the greens us "normal" people putt on.

When we play, the ball lands stops, sometimes after a single hop ... on occasion, it even backs up.

When they play, the ball bounces rolls rolls rolls.

Every superintendent will tell you he/she can't replicate tour conditions for the membership - the grass would die.

Well ... where does it say we have to cut the grass that short? Just because we can?

While the pros want conditions which allow them to have complete control over their ball flight, there's no reason why they should get it. Golf isn't darts - what's wrong with them having to deal with the uncertainty of NOT having compelte control of the ball?

Grow the rough AND THE FAIRWAYS longer.

GOUGE checks in: Great point. The elite players routinely get conditions that do not remotely simulate the mental and physical struggles the game is meant to deliver. Elite competitions should elicit fear and loathing. When they don't, it encompasses all the athletic intensity of a golf trip.

Posted by BD October 15, 2006 4:10 PM

The furrows Nicklaus added to greenside and fairway bunkers at the Memorial this past year finally made bunkers what they're supposed to be: punitive result of a bad shot. The PGA Tour should furrow all courses, so that bunkers represent, as they do to all amatuers, a de facto one-shot penalty.

GOUGE responds: Double-check that, Wounded Duck. But sand save percentage at the Memorial was right in line with the season average on the PGA Tour. But I'm all for the attempt. Bunkers shouldn't be raked either, and all the fans should be allowed to walk through them on their way to the next hole.

Posted by Woundedduck November 3, 2006 3:34 PM

Make the pros play with blades, persimmon, and balata. OK, I'll settle for a urethane covered wound ball. Now we'll find out who can golf their ball.

I still play v-grooves in my irons. I still get too much spin. I'm not sure I'd let fairways get too long, but the private club I played at had tees cut longer than tour fairways.

A possible path on drivers. Let them use any materials they want as long as the clubhead is made of a single material and is SOLID.

GOUGE checks in: What are we afraid of? Do we make the guys in NASCAR drive mini-vans? Let's not forget the pro game is about entertainment. We want to see fantastic successes and equally amazing crashes. There is nothing amazing about playing with ancient equipment. To me, that would be boring.

Posted by clear November 8, 2006 10:03 AM

There's no way that club technology is geting rolled back. There are hundreds of millions of dollars at stake and it's just not going to happen.

But what if the USGA/PGA/RA came to the players with an option and said, pick your poison: you can have all the club technology you want, or you can have the ball technology, but you can't have both.

My suggestion would be to roll the ball back. It would be orders of magnitude cheaper and it would ultimately force the players to learn how to shape the shots. What a concept!

Dale Chavez

http://www.greenposse.com

GOUGE checks in: If a player doesn't have the ability to control his golf ball, up and down, left and right, then he's not going to be able to get close to pins tucked in corners. The best players still can do it, still have to do it. You can win the Hope and Vegas and even Disney just slapping it all over the lot. But you'll never be a factor in a meaningful major championship playing that way. That's still the case today. So why worry?

Posted by Dale Chavez November 8, 2006 12:22 PM

This issue is not going to be resolved to anybody's satisfaction. So, here's what to do. BIFURCATION of the rules; for the amateur chop use what ever you want. You're not playing golf anyway with the mulligans, gimmees and rolling the ball over everywhere. For the Pros: limit the size of the driver clubhead to 280 cc and make it from Plutonium. I don't care what it's made from but the thing has gotten too big and the quality of the strike is not as important as it was 20 years ago. When was the last time you saw a pro hit a snap-toe hook? 1996 I think it was. No wedges more than 56 degrees and grooves can be to the current standards but not "spin-milled" so that the whole face is "grippy". There that's it. Now go play golf. My opinion only of course. And I'll defend my right to it until somebody bigger tells me I can't. That or it will be ignored like most good ideas.

Posted by R Bruce Helbig November 9, 2006 11:09 AM
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